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Gecko
16-12-2009, 07:33 PM
In the past when one speaks of a giant royal, LDA65 comes to mind right away....in recent months however, there seems to be new challengers. Wonder if SA fishermen are investing in diving equipments, many giants royals have been imported into Asia at never seen before sizes!

L190 16"+TL. (Mine, Recently sold to focus on LDA 65). Until this year, the biggest I saw was 11"....now 14, 15 inchers are common.
http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1641&pictureid=8077

L418 23"++ TL (Mine, Recently sold to focus on LDA 65). Again, until this year, the biggest and then it was a 1 in 100's I have seen was a 17". Now 20"+++ are common.
http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1641&pictureid=8718

L330 20"+ TL (recently saw in Taipei lfs WaterWorld). In the past a 12"+ was considered a giant.
http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1641&pictureid=8714

Same fish:
http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1641&pictureid=8717

These giants should be captured from deep water. Really wonder what their true potential size is.

chilicrabz
17-12-2009, 02:31 AM
Wonder if SA fishermen are investing in diving equipments, many giants royals have been imported into Asia at never seen before sizes!

SA fishermen are almost jobless, expecially those in Brazil. No job for them when the ban is being imposed strictly. Their life is dependable on the fishes and the river. Either they remain jobless or turn to other alternatives, which they are unskilled off. The only way for survival is to diverse into other jobs such as gold mining or other illegal activities that causes social problems to their country.

Fishes from Columbia, Peru and Venezuela have since become an alternative for them to keep themselve in a job. Thus, with " no choice", they may have exported out giant specimens as these will fetch a higher price compared to many few smaller ones. The effort for catching a giant is much better than a few smaller ones.

Their diving equipment is just a speed boat, air compressor, hose, goggle, net and a stick. Simple and basic than any scuba diving gear.

Gecko
17-12-2009, 12:02 PM
good point bro! come back from seminar tone and manner also stylo milo oredi:D

Champ-BKK
17-12-2009, 01:51 PM
Thx guys for sharing ;)

SoToNgMaN
17-12-2009, 06:38 PM
lawrence .... where did u spot the L190 and L418 ?

thanks

Gecko
17-12-2009, 07:04 PM
lawrence .... where did u spot the L190 and L418 ?

thanks

I used to own them, L190 from 328, L418 from QH....more and bigger are coming in, just saw another 23"+ L418 in QH yesterday...:)

Edmundo
17-12-2009, 11:32 PM
lawrence .... where did u spot the L190 and L418 ?

thanks

When u gog to have one of those giants?

MX: Nice information. Cheers :)

SoToNgMaN
18-12-2009, 09:49 AM
When u gog to have one of those giants?

MX: Nice information. Cheers :)
there are only 2 plecos I will get ...

BEC or Peru Green ...

Gecko
18-12-2009, 10:37 AM
there are 4 newly imported BEC in QH too, nice size 10" ++ range

SoToNgMaN
19-12-2009, 05:21 AM
there are 4 newly imported BEC in QH too, nice size 10" ++ range
u're evil ...

Gecko
19-12-2009, 01:33 PM
:D got both sexes available...great chance to comm a nice pair, confirmed BECs (not BES)....:D

SoToNgMaN
20-12-2009, 08:17 PM
:D got both sexes available...great chance to comm a nice pair, confirmed BECs (not BES)....:D
ehhh ... the one with lateral body spikes aka bigger fella with chew chew is Cochliodon or Suttoni ?

Gecko
20-12-2009, 09:20 PM
ehh, didnt think there were any suttoni leh...one trick is if just look at tail and body, looks like LDA65 that is a BES. if u going to buy let me know when, drop by with u.

SoToNgMaN
22-12-2009, 12:03 AM
ehh ... this one is which one?

http://www.watchsg.com/content/aquatic/20091011_blueeye/DSC_5730.jpg

Gecko
22-12-2009, 03:11 PM
cant see the tail fin properly in proportion to the TL, but I would guess its a BEC. Helps to see it in person too....looks like trix's ex 15incher BEC.

SoToNgMaN
28-12-2009, 10:46 AM
Recent entry in NKS ... 24" Peru Green ...

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c134/amiidae/perugreen2ft.jpg

barmby
28-12-2009, 02:12 PM
Please. post more pictures and updates from nks. my place far. i can't voyage there.

SoToNgMaN
28-12-2009, 07:48 PM
Please. post more pictures and updates from nks. my place far. i can't voyage there.
pics taken by amidaee aka benjamin of AF ...

akoh
29-12-2009, 08:04 AM
Cheooooong ahhhhhh ! :D

SoToNgMaN
29-12-2009, 04:07 PM
Cheooooong ahhhhhh ! :D
Moustache Sensei ... when coming back to Panaques?

akoh
30-12-2009, 08:28 AM
Akan Datang ! coz' now workload is below my neckline ! :D. First task on hand is to clear all the L200s and L333s in order to make rooms for big fellas ! :D

akoh
30-12-2009, 08:32 AM
Now raining season in Amazon ! big fellas are surfacing to shallow water to have a good time ! :D

barmby
30-12-2009, 10:50 AM
The return of the king .............. akoh
http://henrysheehan.com/reviews/the/return-of-the-king.jpg

akoh
04-01-2010, 09:30 AM
I'm back ! :D

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/74b4142946de1a.jpg

desmondekker
04-01-2010, 10:50 AM
I'm back ! :D



le humongous! 20 inches at least?

akoh
04-01-2010, 12:57 PM
le humongous! 20 inches at least?

I measured - touching 23", there is another bigger one ! BUT kenna supa already ! :(:D

Gecko
04-01-2010, 06:54 PM
Congrats and welcome back bro!

akoh
05-01-2010, 08:48 AM
Congrats and welcome back bro!

It sure feels damn good to be back ! Thanks bro ! :D

quix
05-01-2010, 02:49 PM
It sure feels damn good to be back ! Thanks bro ! :D

Akoh...very nice PG! Seems like the recent influx of giants has done a lot of good in pulling u back in! Waiting to see more pics from you as you build up the collection again.. :D

akoh
05-01-2010, 04:03 PM
Akoh...very nice PG! Seems like the recent influx of giants has done a lot of good in pulling u back in! Waiting to see more pics from you as you build up the collection again.. :D

Panaque sp. ? :confused: :D
http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/74b4142942df07.jpg

akoh
05-01-2010, 04:05 PM
14" L190

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/74b4142945322f.jpg

quix
05-01-2010, 07:27 PM
Panaque sp. ? :confused: :D
http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/74b4142942df07.jpg

Looks like a L190 with interesting lines! :D

akoh
06-01-2010, 09:05 AM
Initially I also thot it was a L190 but a closer look confirm not ! :)

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/thum_74b41429487f21.jpg

Champ-BKK
06-01-2010, 10:25 AM
Initially I also thot it was a L190 but a closer look confirm not ! :)

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/thum_74b41429487f21.jpg

Then what L ?
L 27 :cool:

akoh
06-01-2010, 11:19 AM
The supplier said Panaque sp.. I used to have a L27b that look almost the same !

Champ-BKK
06-01-2010, 11:35 AM
The supplier said Panaque sp.. I used to have a L27b that look almost the same !

same as my idea. Nice fish.

quix
06-01-2010, 11:51 AM
belly is line or spots? Columbia shipment uh?

akoh
06-01-2010, 12:34 PM
lines, shipment not too sure leh ! didn't ask reckon maybe from brazil !:o:D

desmondekker
06-01-2010, 02:16 PM
actually it looks really nice when comm with your L200 battallion

matubula
06-01-2010, 10:29 PM
Initially I also thot it was a L190 but a closer look confirm not ! :)

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/thum_74b41429487f21.jpg

I dont think L27 or at least not Xingu, Tapajos, Araguaia, Tocantins. IMO its L330. Body shape and yellow caudal margin point in the direction of L190 but L330 can have these characteristics. The pattern and pattern extension into the caudal look like L330.

http://www.amazon-exotic-import.de/Gallerie/L-Welse/Bilder/L%20330%20special.jpg

akoh
07-01-2010, 08:40 AM
Can't be either coz' the tummy has straight lines ! well ! supplier said Panaque sp. :D

matubula
09-01-2010, 12:43 AM
Can't be either coz' the tummy has straight lines ! well ! supplier said Panaque sp. :D

You think L190 dont have straight belly lines? What about its teeth, what do they look like?

akoh
10-01-2010, 02:30 PM
Not refering to L190 lah ! L330 or L27a lah ! :)

matubula
11-01-2010, 03:51 AM
Ah good good. Why are you ruling out L190?

Kingfisher
26-11-2010, 09:48 AM
Thanks for the sharing.