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Gecko
11-04-2010, 10:31 AM
Wanted to pass on and document this which I picked up with the help of Edmund and Thomas. L25 sexing can be misleading using body shape, color and chew chew only as ID keys.

A female L25 can be a red and radiant 7 pointer and can even look slender and long from the top. These traits are normally associated with a male.

Most males have big, sail fins liked dorsal fin, but need similar sized females for better comparison.

A "thin" first pectoral fin without chew and without odontodes, etc does not mean it is a female, even for very big specimen male over 15". They may have been dominated by another fish or are not in the best condition. Once corrected, the typical male features of thick first ray with odontodes will blossom!

So sexing by papilla when taken with all the above considerations, is the most accurate.

A male pailla is pointed while a female is blunt and hollow (like a straw).
A male will spread his anal fins when turned over, while female uses her anal fins to cup the papilla. Not sure if every female does this.

Hope this helps.

almost 1 footer female seems to be blunt and hollow.
http://www.plecoplanet.com/forum/photoplog/images/416/1_Picture_076a.jpg

Male (photo credit: Eric)
http://www.plecoplanet.com/forum/photoplog/images/416/1_Male_L25.JPG

desmondekker
11-04-2010, 12:17 PM
good info there!

Champ-BKK
12-04-2010, 11:23 AM
Thank you Gecko ;)

Gecko
12-04-2010, 06:48 PM
U'r welcome....this is the kind of sharing that helped me when I was starting out...

Another closeup pic of a pointed male part. Photo credit: T1000, Thomas

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/274bc2dac1769a7.jpg

Male (photo credit: Eric)
http://www.plecoplanet.com/forum/photoplog/images/416/1_Male_L25.JPG

Edmundo
14-04-2010, 12:44 PM
Nice info............... :)

azroy
02-05-2010, 09:14 AM
Very good info ;) Thanks man!!

Kingfisher
27-11-2010, 10:48 AM
Thanks for the info, very helpful.

900801
27-01-2011, 09:10 PM
Hmm thats a nice share Gecko. I was looking through the net and i saw this. Could it be that the person I-D wrongly? If according to the pics that you showed?

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/image.php?image_id=2395

Husi
28-01-2011, 03:38 AM
Hello

Im thinking this ID is wrong. Im pretty sure, that the first two pictures are males, the third picture shows a female and the last one is another male.

Andi

T1000
28-01-2011, 08:49 AM
Hello

Im thinking this ID is wrong. Im pretty sure, that the first two pictures are males, the third picture shows a female and the last one is another male.

Andi

indeed; now we have doubt that the 3rd pc being a male. this pc has bulk up since and it has shown a trait that bias more to a female and with a comparitively smaller dorsal fin; what's puzzling of this pc is the growth of the 'chew chew' on its pectoral.

Husi
28-01-2011, 09:04 AM
Hi

Can you show a pc of the whole fish?

Andi

T1000
28-01-2011, 09:46 PM
Hi

Can you show a pc of the whole fish?

Andi

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/274d312e9e3bbab.jpg

the largest pc that is in front

Husi
29-01-2011, 02:51 AM
Ok, in my opinion it is a female.

Andi

tamks
31-01-2011, 01:20 AM
Thanks guys for the valuable infomation....definitely good read