ID for this super rare Panaque.. L27 S

[zeroneox]

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj118/glass_sg/e0952b3e.jpg

Thank you

[Gecko]

Finally see (some say) Singapore's only L27 Teles Pires....:) Swee!

[zeroneox]

Finally see (some say) Singapore's only L27 Teles Pires....:) Swee!

I like the top fin.. So big

[zeroneox]

Finally see (some say) Singapore's only L27 Teles Pires....:) Swee!

I very newbie to pleco...
maybe not Teles Pires..

http://www.rva.jp/zukan/pleco/jpg/20060811/36428-P1100875.jpg

my 1st picture was all mostly dots on the fin...
maybe it like L330 not all with full spot...

http://www.aquagora.fr/Fiche-infos-generales-Panaque-spp

this one that so call Teles Pires also look different...

[Edmundo]

i saw this while im in BKK........... the fellow u posted is nice, the spotting is something uncommon in most goldline.......... :)

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/24d0b8c8530c42.jpg

[Kingfisher]

Very very nice piece bro. Great catch!

[zeroneox]

it is the nicest i ever seen... cant seem to find anything even in japanese site..
super rare...

[Kingfisher]

it is the nicest i ever seen... cant seem to find anything even in japanese site..
super rare...

Bro there are many pieces of such quality in Japan...

[zeroneox]

Bro there are many pieces of such quality in Japan...

Any site link to it??

[akoh]

In the late 90s, Aqualog labelled Teles-Pires as L27b, if you house it in a dark environment, it will turn completely dark in color. :)

[Kingfisher]

Any site link to it??

Some of the Japanes online site do sell them from time to time, but after they are sold, the pix are taken offline. Most of the Japanese site are listed here in PCS already in chit chat. One of my favourite site :
http://aquacity-akari.com/index.html

[TRIX]

It is very nice of you to share this link bro KF..:)

[Kingfisher]

It is very nice of you to share this link bro KF..:)

You are welcome Bro, the links to Japanese sites can actually be found under Chit Chat section. I have been exploring the entire PCS site and my god there are alot of gems here I kid you not! Like this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjTIPbSHRwE&feature=player_embedded
It's posted by Bro Chillicrabz in the Pleco breeding and sexing section. Really cool stuff. I urge those who have a bit of time to explore PCS thoroughly. Cheers.:)

[celticfish]

Do we have a new crunching tiger hidden dragon??? :D

If I may ask where was this fish sourced?
Japan or Taiwan?

To the Panaque old birds.
Has this variant ever been brought in to SG?

[Kingfisher]

Do we have a new crunching tiger hidden dragon??? :D

If I may ask where was this fish sourced?
Japan or Taiwan?

Bro Trix, you have to thank Bro Celticfish for that link to the Akari-jap website. :)

[Gecko]

I very newbie to pleco...
maybe not Teles Pires..
...

Alright, IMHO, it is most likely.

L27 TP is known for spots in the fins, and big fan fins disproportionate to size of body, etc.....

currently, if the lines are golden in color, they could be:

1. L27 Aragauia or L27c or L27 goldline (regular, V denture)
2. L27 Tapajos or L27 Thunder (Long snout, U denture)
3. L27 Teles Pires or L27 Thunder God (Big dorsal, big pectorals, spotted fins, U denture, if remembered correctly)

I dont think that L27b is TP as TP was discovered just couple of years back while L27b has longer history. L27 TP when first imported to Taiwan were similar to the one showcased in RVA Jap site (that japanese specimen is really top notch quality).....


Just sharing my opinion and observation...

[zeroneox]

Any other L27 Teles Pires picture out there??

[Kingfisher]

Any other L27 Teles Pires picture out there??

Don't think so bro. Will have to wait abit I guess before more hobbyist will get their hands on one. :)

[akoh]

This pic is more than 15yrs old :

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/74d0ea271a6198.jpg

[TRIX]

Bro Trix, you have to thank Bro Celticfish for that link to the Akari-jap website. :)

Thanks to both of you:)...and yah, have seen Celticfish's link to a jap hobbyist's L25s...amazing grooming skills and most importantly, a very hardcore L25 lovers!!:eek:

[Gecko]

Bro post updates ;) Maybe ur goldie is from some new river....:D

[akoh]

Bro post updates ;) Maybe ur goldie is from some new river....:D

Bro, to me, it is just another champion L27c with spots on it's dorsal fin, just like your Watermelon ! maze lines body but spotted tummy ! :D

[Gecko]

Bro, a few years ago a new royal was discovered (old threads and posts in PF) and the first shipments arrived at Waterworld...I cant remember if I saw it in person or was it Jay, anyways we also received pictures from Boss Chui.

All the new royals in these shipments have 1 key distinguished trait that set them apart from goldies from Araguaia and Tapajos.....gold dust/spots in dorsal and caudal fins.........subsequently some top quality ones were found in Japan...the rva site is a good reference......


http://rva.jp/zukan/pleco/jpg/20060811/36428-P1100871.jpg
http://rva.jp/zukan/pleco/36428.htm

So if you consider all goldies to be L27c, also can...just for current naming convention, and exchange of info, L27 Teles Pires is more specific ;)

[zeroneox]

http://www.f3.dion.ne.jp/~nature_c/DSC_32541.jpg
look a like.. goldline?

[matubula]

http://www.f3.dion.ne.jp/~nature_c/DSC_32541.jpg
look a like.. goldline?

This is L190/L330.

[CanadaPleco]

Bro, a few years ago a new royal was discovered (old threads and posts in PF) and the first shipments arrived at Waterworld...I cant remember if I saw it in person or was it Jay, anyways we also received pictures from Boss Chui.

All the new royals in these shipments have 1 key distinguished trait that set them apart from goldies from Araguaia and Tapajos.....gold dust/spots in dorsal and caudal fins.........subsequently some top quality ones were found in Japan...the rva site is a good reference......


http://rva.jp/zukan/pleco/jpg/20060811/36428-P1100871.jpg
http://rva.jp/zukan/pleco/36428.htm

So if you consider all goldies to be L27c, also can...just for current naming convention, and exchange of info, L27 Teles Pires is more specific ;)

That is one stunning fish!

[Kingfisher]

This is L190/L330.

Yes this pix looks like L190.

[TRIX]

Bro post updates ;) Maybe ur goldie is from some new river....:D

Here's a couple of pix to share after bringing it home from the pond:)...apologise for the yellowish tone due to the partial staining of blackwater previously used in this tank:o

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc197/Triximon/goldie1.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc197/Triximon/goldie.jpg

[Gecko]

http://www.f3.dion.ne.jp/~nature_c/DSC_32541.jpg
look a like.. goldline?

Nope, flip it over for a tummy shot....and compare to Trix's fish ;)

[zeroneox]

wonder if it look like this when it is young

http://www.f3.dion.ne.jp/~nature_c/CIMG67591.jpg

[Gettzzz]

my new L27c
http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/bettas_2010/DSC00046_mini.jpghttp://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/bettas_2010/DSC00047_mini.jpg