ID : pseudacanthicus

[Edmundo]

Label as L97...... tipped off by Gecko to see this fellow...... so wat do you think this fellow is? Certainly at the state of stress when the picture was taken...... hence coloration is off-black... but pay attention to the white marking....


http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/246fb6d48364e3.jpg

[SoToNgMaN]

ehh ? L97 i tot is spotted one ?

[Edmundo]

ehh ? L97 i tot is spotted one ?

Tats why our kind bro lawrence called him when he saw it...... he say must g0 see..... tat why, even at the eve of mine wedding i take a short pleco-ing to see this fellow...... :p

[Gecko]

Great catch! L65 this size would have lost most of its markings...L97 also. L282 markings are more spotted unlike the L65....very interesting to find out more...wonder if any bro still have the Peru Pseuda (only pseuda found in Peru and no L-number) which Joy Aq brought in before...could this be it?

[lyh]

Great catch! L65 this size would have lost most of its markings...L97 also. L282 markings are more spotted unlike the L65....very interesting to find out more...wonder if any bro still have the Peru Pseuda (only pseuda found in Peru and no L-number) which Joy Aq brought in before...could this be it?

That Peru Pseuda was last known to be with bro Disturbed from AF. I wonder did he manage to sell it off during Aquarama. :confused:

[Edmundo]

Great catch! L65 this size would have lost most of its markings...L97 also. L282 markings are more spotted unlike the L65....very interesting to find out more...wonder if any bro still have the Peru Pseuda (only pseuda found in Peru and no L-number) which Joy Aq brought in before...could this be it?

i bought one from clinton few months back...... but n0t sure if it is a peru sp... tat fellow used to be owned by Kenneth.....

Thanks to ur tip off.....

[Edmundo]

That Peru Pseuda was last known to be with bro Disturbed from AF. I wonder did he manage to sell it off during Aquarama. :confused:

u refering to me? :p

[Edmundo]

From keruzou website.....

http://keruzou.hp.infoseek.co.jp/jpg/pbliz05.jpg

Could in the juv?

http://keruzou.hp.infoseek.co.jp/jpg/pbliz02.jpg

More pics.....
http://keruzou.hp.infoseek.co.jp/pineapple/blizzard.html

[T1000]

nice catch boss....where was it bagged?

hmmm...interesting coloration....though pattern wise, it looked more like a L185...

[chilicrabz]

Label as L97...... tipped off by Gecko to see this fellow...... so wat do you think this fellow is? Certainly at the state of stress when the picture was taken...... hence coloration is off-black... but pay attention to the white marking....


http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/246fb6d48364e3.jpg

Bro, never had a chance to talk to u in-depth about this, when u told me about it during ur wedding dinner.

Anyway, it dun seems to be a L97, cos the mouth/ head is longish.
L97 have a short mouth structure.
How has this fish been, after acclimatised??
Did it turn black???

Reason being, from the pix, i find that it shows it has black lines rather than white markings, esp from the base of the mouth, as a guide.
It shows more of a white base than black in the pix.
We cant be debating whether it is black or white markings rite, if we were to use zebras( not L46) as a guide.

If after acclimatised, it turns black, most likely what Thomas said, mite be true.
But i reckon that as a L185, rather than a L186.
For its flatter head, longer snout, head markings.

What do u guys think???

*My personal judgment may be wrong, as i merely interpret from the pix.

[Edmundo]

nice catch boss....where was it bagged?

hmmm...interesting coloration....though pattern wise, it looked more like a L185...

From a rather unlikely soucre.... PolyArt.....

Bro, never had a chance to talk to u in-depth about this, when u told me about it during ur wedding dinner.

Anyway, it dun seems to be a L97, cos the mouth/ head is longish.
L97 have a short mouth structure.
How has this fish been, after acclimatised??
Did it turn black???

Reason being, from the pix, i find that it shows it has black lines rather than white markings, esp from the base of the mouth, as a guide.
It shows more of a white base than black in the pix.
We cant be debating whether it is black or white markings rite, if we were to use zebras( not L46) as a guide.

If after acclimatised, it turns black, most likely what Thomas said, mite be true.
But i reckon that as a L185, rather than a L186.
For its flatter head, longer snout, head markings.

What do u guys think???

*My personal judgment may be wrong, as i merely interpret from the pix.


i will post some "underside pics for your references..... interesting deductions.... keep it going..... cheers :)

[Edmundo]

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/246fc6d748bb79.jpg

[Edmundo]

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/246fc6e84d58e1.jpg

Alrt, xhilli, the fish is definitely a black base fish...... :)

Sad to say, this lad has not stable yet due to royal rumble.... look at tat wound u will noe liao (likely from L600)..... haha :p

I dun think it a L185..... cos L185 never hav white marking..... instead black marking pattern..... right?

[T1000]

From a rather unlikely soucre.... PolyArt.....

oh i see....was there ytdy also...saw the big sunshine...

[chilicrabz]

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/246fc6e84d58e1.jpg

Alrt, xhilli, the fish is definitely a black base fish...... :)

Sad to say, this lad has not stable yet due to royal rumble.... look at tat wound u will noe liao (likely from L600)..... haha :p

I dun think it a L185..... cos L185 never hav white marking..... instead black marking pattern..... right?


yup, i suspect it was a L185, if the fish has black markings, from ur 1st pix.
However, the underside of his body suggest a L97 to me.

L97 is more to a wormy-line markings, whereby L282 are spots.
Esp when they are around 7-8inches.
L97 will show a more faded translucent white marks at certain parts of their body.

However, i have not seen any semi-adult L65 before, only through online pix.

*If u refer the aqualog, the pix tat u took, looks almost the same.
Isit u cut n paste wan???? hahaha
Maybe u wanna research on the L97/282/65 - the clones

[Edmundo]

yup, i suspect it was a L185, if the fish has black markings, from ur 1st pix.
However, the underside of his body suggest a L97 to me.

L97 is more to a wormy-line markings, whereby L282 are spots.
Esp when they are around 7-8inches.
L97 will show a more faded translucent white marks at certain parts of their body.

However, i have not seen any semi-adult L65 before, only through online pix.

*If u refer the aqualog, the pix tat u took, looks almost the same.
Isit u cut n paste wan???? hahaha
Maybe u wanna research on the L97/282/65 - the clones

bro... i really like the way u id fishes...... u the man......! :)

i do agree with u cos i recall from the Hk forum, there are adult L97 with wormline markings...... i will continue to keep this thread update once it stablize more....

by the way, mine photography so shit where can compare to aqualog de.... lol :p

[Edmundo]

i think will go mal shop take a g00d look at his big L97 and see how :)

[chilicrabz]

bro... i really like the way u id fishes...... u the man......! :)

i do agree with u cos i recall from the Hk forum, there are adult L97 with wormline markings...... i will continue to keep this thread update once it stablize more....

by the way, mine photography so shit where can compare to aqualog de.... lol :p

Anywae, thanks for ur compliment. I have still a long way to learn.
It all goes down to individual's interest and specialization.

Not only we make references from aqualog itself, we can tap on the knowledge of those hongkongers, taiwanese, japanese and those ang mo.
They have their own school of thoughts, we juz have to mixed them together to create our own.

i think will go mal shop take a g00d look at his big L97 and see how :)

Do note that L97's eyes is somehow quite different from the rest, unlike those patch black eyes, we saw in L160. The head is also somehow different, although they may be some variations.

[Edmundo]

Anywae, thanks for ur compliment. I have still a long way to learn.
It all goes down to individual's interest and specialization.

Not only we make references from aqualog itself, we can tap on the knowledge of those hongkongers, taiwanese, japanese and those ang mo.
They have their own school of thoughts, we juz have to mixed them together to create our own.



Do note that L97's eyes is somehow quite different from the rest, unlike those patch black eyes, we saw in L160. The head is also somehow different, although they may be some variations.


Elaborate? :confused:

[Edmundo]

Mystery unveil?..... while i was flipping thro the "Pleconia II" i come across a undescribe pseuda which look exactly like wat i acquired... it came in few distinctive pattern.... generally characteristic is patchy spots..... why i say iz n0t L97 is aso becos in this particular book, it feature some L97 too.... all with tiny white regular spots..... further i was at nks yesterday to study his big L97.... and tat fellow is also white tiny spots....

[Gecko]

Mystery unveil?..... while i was flipping thro the "Pleconia II" i come across a undescribe pseuda which look exactly like wat i acquired... it came in few distinctive pattern.... generally characteristic is patchy spots..... why i say iz n0t L97 is aso becos in this particular book, it feature some L97 too.... all with tiny white regular spots..... further i was at nks yesterday to study his big L97.... and tat fellow is also white tiny spots....

Bro, which is why I called you....I can confirm not L97, not L282, not L65. (my id pattern is thru a process of elimination). So whatever it is, it is rare and a great buy:cool:

[Edmundo]

Bro, which is why I called you....I can confirm not L97, not L282, not L65. (my id pattern is thru a process of elimination). So whatever it is, it is rare and a great buy:cool:

Cheers mate.... btw, mine number is 24/7 on de..... as responsive as those 999 and 995 hotline.... :p

[Gecko]

No prob bro, that is the fun of plecoing, meself no more tank space so anytime got lobang, as long as I know what tickles you pink (or any bros' here) will call in....at least within the "family" can see live or pics updates.

BTW if you have space, can consider keeping this guy in white background? My L282 and L65 and peru pseuda in my old tank always orl ru ru, even white spots markings also become dirty brown:D Hopefully yours maintain the broad white marks into 12"+ would be spectacular!

If you hear or see L98, call me 24/7 too:o

[Edmundo]

No prob bro, that is the fun of plecoing, meself no more tank space so anytime got lobang, as long as I know what tickles you pink (or any bros' here) will call in....at least within the "family" can see live or pics updates.

BTW if you have space, can consider keeping this guy in white background? My L282 and L65 and peru pseuda in my old tank always orl ru ru, even white spots markings also become dirty brown:D Hopefully yours maintain the broad white marks into 12"+ would be spectacular!

If you hear or see L98, call me 24/7 too:o

Ok.... this fellow settled well since.... will work out some space for it......

L98? will do.... in PF one german selling but duno if credible.... u should have read tat thread be4....

[michael lai]

So did anybody find out what SP that is? Just got back from C328, also got 1 labelled as L97 but after looking at Datz, it looks more like L96 cause the dorsal and upper tail fin have red markings. Anyway have given up identifying as the body markings are all screw up. Will try to upload a pix soon to share with you guys....swee:p

[chilicrabz]

So did anybody find out what SP that is? Just got back from C328, also got 1 labelled as L97 but after looking at Datz, it looks more like L96 cause the dorsal and upper tail fin have red markings. Anyway have given up identifying as the body markings are all screw up. Will try to upload a pix soon to share with you guys....swee:p'

Heard that u got that nicest piece among the 3 that auntie picked, do post a pix soon k.

[michael lai]

Omg! How did you find out?? I was attracted to it the minute I saw it :p Will try to upload pixs in a few days time, just got back....

[akoh]

Bro, your movement is monitored by PC shy cam ! :D dun prlay prlay :D

[Edmundo]

In stable condition, wat is it? :rolleyes::confused:

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/2474282fd75d76.jpg

[chilicrabz]

In stable condition, wat is it? :rolleyes::confused:

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/2474282fd75d76.jpg

is this the same fish as u have posted in the 1st page??? why looks so different wan.

Anyway, it looks like the peru pseudas. Am i rite?????

[chilicrabz]

Omg! How did you find out?? I was attracted to it the minute I saw it :p Will try to upload pixs in a few days time, just got back....


hows ur fish now????
We have been waiting for ur stable pix.
hahaha

[Edmundo]

is this the same fish as u have posted in the 1st page??? why looks so different wan.

Anyway, it looks like the peru pseudas. Am i rite?????

no idea..... but peru is fine spots and fine short wormline.......... this is patchy and duno why the head color cant be black...... he is the bully in the tank , which i believe color is stable liao......will do update on this as time goes.... :)

[michael lai]

This one looks like the one I bought from auntie, the top of the dorsal and tail fin there is a red tint to it for mine. Just look at 2 'peru' the other day with Gecko, Orh Lu Lu leh basically got no marking. Edmundo, swee specimen too:p:p

[michael lai]

hows ur fish now????
We have been waiting for ur stable pix.
hahaha

Haha, okay lah. Let me get the 100mm today, just got back my cam from friend....paiseh.

[Edmundo]

This one looks like the one I bought from auntie, the top of the dorsal and tail fin there is a red tint to it for mine. Just look at 2 'peru' the other day with Gecko, Orh Lu Lu leh basically got no marking. Edmundo, swee specimen too:p:p

Haha, okay lah. Let me get the 100mm today, just got back my cam from friend....paiseh.

say until mine heart itchy liao lar...... hurry leh.... :p

[chilicrabz]

no idea..... but peru is fine spots and fine short wormline.......... this is patchy and duno why the head color cant be black...... he is the bully in the tank , which i believe color is stable liao......will do update on this as time goes.... :)


But what did u bought as????
Patchy are determinants of its quality and not to be used as a guide for identification. Just like a badly smudge black black L273 and a clean coloured distinct spots L273.

As a guideline, do always observe its spots/markings, tail, head n eyes.

[Edmundo]

But what did u bought as????
Patchy are determinants of its quality and not to be used as a guide for identification. Just like a badly smudge black black L273 and a clean coloured distinct spots L273.

As a guideline, do always observe its spots/markings, tail, head n eyes.

Bought it as L97, so mean iz L97? i take very g00d care of this fellow.... update quarterly to see iz development. :)

[Edmundo]

heres some new development....

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/247656359e15b2.jpg

[chilicrabz]

heres some new development....

http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/imagehosting/247656359e15b2.jpg

Thats a nice peru

[Edmundo]

Thats a nice peru

now become peru? not L97 ah? anyway i got a juv peru the marking is fine type whil;e this is bold type........... will update again as this fellow grow..... cheers :)