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lyh
25-01-2008, 09:26 AM
Hi all can someone recommend me a fish food that is high in calcium? I hope to prove my hypothesis :o

peckio
25-01-2008, 11:11 AM
Hi all can someone recommend me a fish food that is high in calcium? I hope to prove my hypothesis :o

Si mi hypothesis?
That high cal food will make plecos grow stronger spikes & chew chew?

Edmundo
25-01-2008, 11:55 AM
What hypothesis? To prove it right is more difficult than to prove it wrong. Good Luck!

Dried shrimp or ............. HL milk lor........... hi cal lo fat........... :D

celticfish
25-01-2008, 01:06 PM
hypothesis - high calcium diet helps bone growth for the fish to get bigger in a shorter time?

also, read that this may not be neccessary as the fish normally get the calcium and other trace in the food.
especially the trace since they only need minute amounts.
though i feel calcium might be a good candidate to study (bones mass is quite big for plecos).

lyh
25-01-2008, 01:51 PM
Problem: I have this Peru green bought about 6 months ago. After some sheding and growing of chews, I noticed that the new chews do not grow as thickly as when it just arrived. Here I do not mean thick as in the thickness of one bunch but the thickness of the individual chews.

With this, I suspect the regular feed that I have been feeding could have some vitamins or whatsoever missing. Therefore, I would like to try out food with different contents and see if I can bring back the original glory of this fish. I find the thin chews to be quite ugly although the current bunch of chew is thicker.:(

akoh
25-01-2008, 04:04 PM
High calcium intake is known to increase the plec's output concentration of ammonia, hence WC frequency need to revise.

Edmundo
25-01-2008, 05:43 PM
Problem: I have this Peru green bought about 6 months ago. After some sheding and growing of chews, I noticed that the new chews do not grow as thickly as when it just arrived. Here I do not mean thick as in the thickness of one bunch but the thickness of the individual chews.

With this, I suspect the regular feed that I have been feeding could have some vitamins or whatsoever missing. Therefore, I would like to try out food with different contents and see if I can bring back the original glory of this fish. I find the thin chews to be quite ugly although the current bunch of chew is thicker.:(

Can try, but in the wild, is totally diff from captivity. Food, water parameter, enviorment etc. all wil laffect the condition of the fish. I doubt calcium is the contributing factor of bushy growth. In the world of animal, male domination comes from agression and competition among peers. I believe, during mating season, to win female for mating, males naturally grow bushiser den before, in capitivity, h0w to?

Since panaque love to chew, h0w abt bone?

celticfish
25-01-2008, 07:24 PM
i don't know if this will help you but here goes...
last year after my L046 alpha male stopped breeding i noticed his tummy was sunken and cheek odontodes were less lush.
needless to say i didnt get very good sleep.
two week later his cheek odontodes were totally gone!
he looked like a "kuniang" male from the side view... :eek:

i didn't know what happened or what to do.
so i didn't do anything...
just upped the temp to keep the metabolic rate up for appetite.
after about four months his belly filled up a little and the cheek odontodes grew back a little. *PHEW*
by about six months his cheek odontode growth was better than when i first got him.
until today i still dont know if it was an infection or just a case of going out of breeding mode.



okay i don't think that help at all... :p
here's something i think might do so.
you can try supplementing its diet with kelp tablets.
i'm a panaque "zero" knowledge fella so i dont know its size...
the kelp tablets are usually pretty small though.

you can get this from the pharmacy like vitamin supplements.
kelp is a seaweed that is high in calcium.
also good for older ladies to supplement the natural decline of their bones.
if you prepare you own food it would be easy to crush the tablets and add.

chilicrabz
26-01-2008, 02:36 AM
high calcium food.......why not try the hikari crab cuisine or JBL novoprawn since they are sinking food. Its good for bone structure for crabs/lobster but not sure if its good for plecos, especially psuedas or megas to be more spikier.

lyh
28-01-2008, 01:15 AM
High calcium intake is known to increase the plec's output concentration of ammonia, hence WC frequency need to revise.

Thanks for the input bro. I didn't know calcium intake will increase poo concentration. :o

Can try, but in the wild, is totally diff from captivity. Food, water parameter, enviorment etc. all wil laffect the condition of the fish. I doubt calcium is the contributing factor of bushy growth. In the world of animal, male domination comes from agression and competition among peers. I believe, during mating season, to win female for mating, males naturally grow bushiser den before, in capitivity, h0w to?

Since panaque love to chew, h0w abt bone?

Bro, my tanks have a small L190 for them to chase and maintain agression but this does not help much. Last time someone told me that in a comm. tank, more often than not you will not get to see lush chew due to fights hence the option of puting two big ones is out.

i don't know if this will help you but here goes...
last year after my L046 alpha male stopped breeding i noticed his tummy was sunken and cheek odontodes were less lush.
needless to say i didnt get very good sleep.
two week later his cheek odontodes were totally gone!
he looked like a "kuniang" male from the side view... :eek:

i didn't know what happened or what to do.
so i didn't do anything...
just upped the temp to keep the metabolic rate up for appetite.
after about four months his belly filled up a little and the cheek odontodes grew back a little. *PHEW*
by about six months his cheek odontode growth was better than when i first got him.
until today i still dont know if it was an infection or just a case of going out of breeding mode.



okay i don't think that help at all... :p
here's something i think might do so.
you can try supplementing its diet with kelp tablets.
i'm a panaque "zero" knowledge fella so i dont know its size...
the kelp tablets are usually pretty small though.

you can get this from the pharmacy like vitamin supplements.
kelp is a seaweed that is high in calcium.
also good for older ladies to supplement the natural decline of their bones.
if you prepare you own food it would be easy to crush the tablets and add.

Thanks for your suggestion bro. As for your incident, did you lose weight during that period of time like the zebra? :D

high calcium food.......why not try the hikari crab cuisine or JBL novoprawn since they are sinking food. Its good for bone structure for crabs/lobster but not sure if its good for plecos, especially psuedas or megas to be more spikier.

Thanks for your input bro. I'll go and do some comparison on the content of these food