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Dimitri
11-02-2008, 03:15 PM
when it comes to pseudas, how do you guys differentiate them?????????????

1. L185 vs L343 vs L79 vs L186
2. L96 vs L160
3. L97 vs L282 vs L65
4. L24 : tucuri vs tocantin
5. L273 vs L275

using 7incher fishes as a base comparison, wat we look out for????????????

any useful links to read up on?????????????

cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

Edmundo
11-02-2008, 04:13 PM
when it comes to pseudas, how do you guys differentiate them?????????????

1. L185 vs L343 vs L79 vs L186
2. L96 vs L160
3. L97 vs L282 vs L65
4. L24 : tucuri vs tocantin
5. L273 vs L275

using 7incher fishes as a base comparison, wat we look out for????????????

any useful links to read up on?????????????

cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

Let me try...... IMO and judgement

1.
L185 (patternless marking on head, strips/spots black marking on body, flat head),
L343 (100% wavy black marking n light grey skin, check belly marking to confirm)
L79 (low profile, golden eyes, brown/light grey skin with black marking),
L186 (identical to L185

2.
L96 (tikum those L160 with spotless head n orange tinted dorsal+caudal fin)
L160 (brown/grey skin with lotsa black spots all over body)

3.
L97 (check belly, confirm with tiny spots althot sub adult will loose body spoting)
L282 (gold regular spots wif jet black skin)
L65 (Patchy white marking but since we ID base on 7", iz near black, btw no 7" ever landed in SIngapore i suppose so cant comment too much)

4.
L24 (never ever tried on before)
Tucurri - clean orange/yellow skin with bright red finnage
Tocantin - black marking with olive green/greyish skin

5.
L273 (comes in few color variation, generally orange, pink, yellow)
L275 (looks like L64 with black huwen?) nvr see before.

The above listed are not the only thing i will see but are what i can describe by words.......... so sorry....... :p

lyh
11-02-2008, 05:16 PM
For L185 and L186 one of them has a sharper head. This is one trait I saw from aqualog :D

Edmundo
11-02-2008, 05:57 PM
For L185 and L186 one of them has a sharper head. This is one trait I saw from aqualog :D

i will take note........ :)

chilicrabz
11-02-2008, 11:04 PM
i would like to further add on:
L185's head is not as flat as L186 which the latter has a longer snout. 186 is characterise with its long lyre tail, while 185 is short.

L79 is a class on its own, they are not a very big fish, characterise by its snake-skin body markings, however, some will fade as they grow. The golden eyes is something we should look out for. Cos not much pseudas are having golden eye. Frm what i noe, only 24, 25, 79 are golden eye, unless we are refering to new sp.

Another thing to add, i realised that L96 has smallers spots as compared to L160. Of cos, their orange caudal and dorsal should be the main factor to consider.

L65, 97, 282 is still under observation. Update u again, once the findings are out.

L24 tuccurri has a sharper head feature, when looking from above, it is triangular in shape. They have a clean look, in terms of their body markings, and the tail are mostly short and thick. Ironically, tocantins have rounder head structure, long lyre tail and their body is of dirty green in colour.

L275 has never been imported into sg before, however, they might come in as L273. No idea of how it looks like, but from TW website, they looks exactly like our smurgy black L273.


Let me try...... IMO and judgement

1.
L185 (patternless marking on head, strips/spots black marking on body, flat head),
L343 (100% wavy black marking n light grey skin, check belly marking to confirm)
L79 (low profile, golden eyes, brown/light grey skin with black marking),
L186 (identical to L185

2.
L96 (tikum those L160 with spotless head n orange tinted dorsal+caudal fin)
L160 (brown/grey skin with lotsa black spots all over body)

3.
L97 (check belly, confirm with tiny spots althot sub adult will loose body spoting)
L282 (gold regular spots wif jet black skin)
L65 (Patchy white marking but since we ID base on 7", iz near black, btw no 7" ever landed in SIngapore i suppose so cant comment too much)

4.
L24 (never ever tried on before)
Tucurri - clean orange/yellow skin with bright red finnage
Tocantin - black marking with olive green/greyish skin

5.
L273 (comes in few color variation, generally orange, pink, yellow)
L275 (looks like L64 with black huwen?) nvr see before.

The above listed are not the only thing i will see but are what i can describe by words.......... so sorry....... :p

Dimitri
12-02-2008, 05:07 PM
Let me try...... IMO and judgement

1.
L185 (patternless marking on head, strips/spots black marking on body, flat head),
L343 (100% wavy black marking n light grey skin, check belly marking to confirm)
L79 (low profile, golden eyes, brown/light grey skin with black marking),
L186 (identical to L185

2.
L96 (tikum those L160 with spotless head n orange tinted dorsal+caudal fin)
L160 (brown/grey skin with lotsa black spots all over body)

3.
L97 (check belly, confirm with tiny spots althot sub adult will loose body spoting)
L282 (gold regular spots wif jet black skin)
L65 (Patchy white marking but since we ID base on 7", iz near black, btw no 7" ever landed in SIngapore i suppose so cant comment too much)

4.
L24 (never ever tried on before)
Tucurri - clean orange/yellow skin with bright red finnage
Tocantin - black marking with olive green/greyish skin

5.
L273 (comes in few color variation, generally orange, pink, yellow)
L275 (looks like L64 with black huwen?) nvr see before.

The above listed are not the only thing i will see but are what i can describe by words.......... so sorry....... :p

i would like to further add on:
L185's head is not as flat as L186 which the latter has a longer snout. 186 is characterise with its long lyre tail, while 185 is short.

L79 is a class on its own, they are not a very big fish, characterise by its snake-skin body markings, however, some will fade as they grow. The golden eyes is something we should look out for. Cos not much pseudas are having golden eye. Frm what i noe, only 24, 25, 79 are golden eye, unless we are refering to new sp.

Another thing to add, i realised that L96 has smallers spots as compared to L160. Of cos, their orange caudal and dorsal should be the main factor to consider.

L65, 97, 282 is still under observation. Update u again, once the findings are out.

L24 tuccurri has a sharper head feature, when looking from above, it is triangular in shape. They have a clean look, in terms of their body markings, and the tail are mostly short and thick. Ironically, tocantins have rounder head structure, long lyre tail and their body is of dirty green in colour.

L275 has never been imported into sg before, however, they might come in as L273. No idea of how it looks like, but from TW website, they looks exactly like our smurgy black L273.

thanks for the help guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! will go home to ID today...................

cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

Edmundo
12-02-2008, 06:48 PM
thanks for the help guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! will go home to ID today...................

cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

wow.......wat have u gotten? so special ah? :p